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Oct 3, 2023 22:18:09 GMT -6
Post by mghs on Oct 3, 2023 22:18:09 GMT -6
Culture and talent is the issue in WS..... and training facilities don't change the Culture. No doubt that some people are very optimistic in the community of WS about the future of football to be otherwise would be depressing. To change the Culture first you have to have talent and then that talent has to play and be bought in. I don't see the talent on the horizon for WS. One half decent class in the MS is not going to turn the program around.
It appears that WS has become what they always where a Basketball school. Nothing wrong with that if that is what the vast majority of the Community wants.
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Oct 4, 2023 7:57:11 GMT -6
Post by mosooner on Oct 4, 2023 7:57:11 GMT -6
Change in culture takes time and patience. When Brian Moler took over Reeds Spring in 2008 it was one of the worst programs in SW Missouri. But he got the area vested. He got the kids to TRULY buy in. In a few years things begin to change and he, and the coaches since, have been able to build on it. Now, not saying RS is near the top of programs, but they are light years from where they were. Just stick with it WS. Do things the right way, be patient, and this too will pass.
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Oct 4, 2023 8:25:54 GMT -6
Post by bonehead on Oct 4, 2023 8:25:54 GMT -6
Mosooner that is how things have to happen if a change is going to take place. But the WS community would rather daydream about the handful of good years that they had with Ary than make the changes needed. It is easier to just sit back and complain about things. They had a hometown guy as coach who had a good staff and had things moving in the right direction and they basically ran him out of town. Then under another coach they had a team play in the district championship game, everything was wonderful and they were all excited, and the very next year they are all complaining that he was an idiot and ran him outta of the job. So I am just not buying that the community is behind this current coach. Watch their program in person. It is in shambles.
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Oct 4, 2023 8:35:11 GMT -6
Post by jordanearl on Oct 4, 2023 8:35:11 GMT -6
Change in culture takes time and patience. When Brian Moler took over Reeds Spring in 2008 it was one of the worst programs in SW Missouri. But he got the area vested. He got the kids to TRULY buy in. In a few years things begin to change and he, and the coaches since, have been able to build on it. Now, not saying RS is near the top of programs, but they are light years from where they were. Just stick with it WS. Do things the right way, be patient, and this too will pass. Liberty was same way before Acklin. They were worst then bad.
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Oct 4, 2023 13:04:40 GMT -6
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Post by amacomo on Oct 4, 2023 13:04:40 GMT -6
There is no way you have any type of feel for how the community feels when you do not live or interact with the community on a somewhat regular basis. You can think that is dumb but it is reality. The community is a huge part of the problem. The middle school program has won a couple games. Training facilities are nice but that is not an answer either. People from Willow have been in denial about this stuff for years and until the real issues are dealt with things will never change. I’m back in willow usually a couple times a year. Have really good friends who have kids in program down to mighty mites. I do agree that the community is an issue with the program. Their reluctance to be progressive over the last 50 years has led to a lot of issues in willow besides the football program. I just think things could be starting to turn a corner similarly to how they did in Mtn view 20+ years ago. People with young kids are starting to try and get more involved and get it back going with increased participation and there is an increase in talent coming. Hard to believe it got to the point it has. I was at the Cabool game and this willow team is without a doubt the weakest I’ve ever seen in the SCA. Even those bad Liberty teams had decent size. Willow is basically playing varsity football with a bad freshman team. The fact that Coach Payne is keeping the kids out is pretty amazing in my opinion.
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Oct 4, 2023 22:00:11 GMT -6
Post by mghs on Oct 4, 2023 22:00:11 GMT -6
I agree gotta give Coach Payne credit for not having a wholesale exodus of players.
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Oct 5, 2023 12:56:23 GMT -6
Post by bonehead on Oct 5, 2023 12:56:23 GMT -6
Yeah I guess that is a small positive in the midst of chaos.
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