Game of the week discussion, week 7

I know not of Herky or his recruitment

didn't go to game but listened what a game. good job on both sides! sounded like they had issues w refs though? dewy what happened w having to get rule book out?

So Houston had the ball 4th down deep in Willow territory. 1 or 2 yard line is the first down marker. Willow stopped the Houston player at the 5 and the ball was also fumbled and went out of bounds at the 1. The refs gave Houston the ball at the 1. They score right after to go up 14-6 with 3? minutes left. Before they went ahead and gave them the ball the Coaches went to the head ref, and he stopped play to let them bring him the rule book. In every level of football I know, you can NOT advance a fumble on 4th down in the 4th quarter UNLESS you recover your own fumble. Not only was it not recovered by the player the ball rolls out of bounds. 

It was a flag fest both ways all night long. I haven't said a word about officials this year, and vowed not to because of shortages of officials and such. I made it all the way to week 7. They wouldn't let either team's defense line up at the line of scrimmage pretty much and several offsides were called. And I have no clue what happened for all the false starts either. 

Willow left everything out on the field and fought hard on every play, and almost pulled this one out. They didn't lay down and 2 plays after Houston goes up 14-6 it's 14-14. Houston didn't score until 13 seconds left and we didn't have enough time to respond   

Attackdog (referee) I don't know if you still come through here. If so please help.

I've seen post where there was some confusion about a safety being scored on a penalty in the end zone. Here is a play from the case book ignore the fact that its a punt and focus on what happens when the team in possession of the ball commits a foul in thier own endzone

10.4.4 SITUATION E

R1 catches a punt on his 4-yard line and his momentum carries him behind his goal line where he is downed in the end zone. After the kick has ended, but before the ball becomes dead: (a) K1 holds in R’s end zone; or (b) K1 holds at R’s 5-yard line; or (c) R2 holds in the end zone.

If R accepts the penalty in either (a) or (b), it will be R’s ball first and 10 from its 14-yard line. R will put the ball in play by a snap. If R declines the penalty in either (a) or (b), the ball will be put in play by R at the 4-yard line since the kick was caught there. In (c), it is a safety since the foul occurred in the end zone.
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Attackdog also made this post on the fb page and I thanked him for his time researching (he spent about an hour). There was a LOT of people who didn't know this. We did discuss that Mshsaa or Nfhsaa (or however the national high school is called) need to research this rule and give it some thought. For the record this play didn't cost us the game or anything, we responded in 2-3 plays and tied it up. But my concern is as we all learned this kids are going to be fumbling forward on 4th down and trying to make it look good. Attackdog did tell us that if that is suspected said players can be flagged for an illegal forward pass. So this may be a monitored situation for awhile. So I (and a whole lot of folks) stand corrected on this call.

If you are from Lamar I’m disappointed. You know better then to let information on players health out in the first place. It’s a town rule. It’s not to be spread all over the internet. Second you stated it like he’s missing multiple weeks. The Tigers have no hard games left. Why would they risk losing him longer by playing him? He’s going to play some to none into districts. Now quit talking about kids health on the internet. This is different than a prayer request. It’s helpful to opponents to know the health of an opposing team. I knew Lamar would beat the breaks off of them. I love a block away from the field and I have relatives playing.