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Post by salemtigeralum04 on Nov 26, 2016 13:45:59 GMT -6
Looks like the southern part of the State is dominating the state titles race this season with Lamar and Monett taking home Championships
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Post by mosooner on Nov 26, 2016 18:23:13 GMT -6
Really happy for Monett. The Maryville folks seemed to be in shock.. they thought it was a done deal.
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Post by 4everalhstiger on Nov 26, 2016 19:01:49 GMT -6
I was excited for Monett as well. They were definitely the underdog.
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Post by swfootball on Nov 26, 2016 19:03:09 GMT -6
Congrats to Lamar and the cubs. How often does that happen? And how often did the smaller class win the head to head game.
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Post by bwplucky on Nov 26, 2016 20:13:29 GMT -6
So I guess that answers the question of if Lamar would be able to play up and still compete for championships....I believe that they should automatically be put up a class for more of an even playing field. Saying that if Lamar was class 3 this year do you think that Liberty would have made it to the championship game?? And if so do you believe that they could hang with Trinity? I would like to believe so......
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Post by 7time on Nov 26, 2016 21:04:24 GMT -6
Could liberty have beaten brentwood? Absolutely. Playing trinity? Ill take trinity by 3-4 tds. What made lamar successful was depth, solid secondary, and a run game that wore them out. Liberty playing a similar style with the same depth but lesser athletes. Not trying to offend cause pruett bush and orchard are good athletes
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Post by swfootball on Nov 26, 2016 21:33:14 GMT -6
Another question. Would Grove won a championship if they hadn't dropped down to class 2
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Post by scasportsfanatic on Nov 27, 2016 9:14:18 GMT -6
Class 3 is weak. Grove's odds are always better in class 3. I believe it's been like this for the last fifteen years or so. Some of those Coach Ary led Willow teams would have made it to the championship game several times if they had been in class 3 and not class 2.
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Post by mosooner on Nov 27, 2016 14:33:54 GMT -6
Another question. Would Grove won a championship if they hadn't dropped down to class 2 I don't think so. Owensville and Eldon would have given them trouble in districts and had they got past that Monett would have been waiting. Since they went to this format District 3 has NEVER beaten district 4. I do believe Grove was probably better this year, but Monett is better than the Aurora team that came out of this district last year. Something we will never know.... |
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Post by LHSTiger81 on Nov 27, 2016 16:45:14 GMT -6
"....I believe that they should automatically be put up a class for more of an even playing field."
- looks like we have another participation ribbon recipient. How about if you continue to be a loser, you move down a class, "for a more even playing field". This mindset is what is ruining our youth. Ridiculous
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Post by benjikane on Nov 27, 2016 16:53:30 GMT -6
Could liberty have beaten brentwood? Absolutely. Playing trinity? Ill take trinity by 3-4 tds. What made lamar successful was depth, solid secondary, and a run game that wore them out. Liberty playing a similar style with the same depth but lesser athletes. Not trying to offend cause pruett bush and orchard are good athletes I agree with this statement. |
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Post by bonehead on Nov 27, 2016 21:07:43 GMT -6
So I guess that answers the question of if Lamar would be able to play up and still compete for championships....I believe that they should automatically be put up a class for more of an even playing field. Saying that if Lamar was class 3 this year do you think that Liberty would have made it to the championship game?? And if so do you believe that they could hang with Trinity? I would like to believe so...... just stop with this nonsense. Lamar and TC were far and away the 2 best teams in class 2 this year. Liberty would not hang with them, just as they could not hang with Lamar. So instead of getting better and beating lamar, let's move them out of our class so we do not have to deal with them. Terrible logic. |
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Post by bwplucky on Nov 28, 2016 4:04:29 GMT -6
First of all I am a firm believer in receiving just accolades and not getting a trophy for "participation". The only thought that I had is man would it be cool to see a team be rewarded for being a class above the rest actually be put in a class above the rest. Ya being a 6 time state champion is great...but dang guys to go out and rip into someone because of a comment that you obviously don't agree with is terrible I mean sheesh are you all liberals or something??? and get off being nasty and lumping people without knowing a back story. I was just trying to get a conversation going and it worked until Bonehead (appropriate name BTW and lhstiger81 started throwing out what they "believe" and thats cool but you have to feel like quite a person to disagree on a sports forum and not give a rebuttal as to why you feel that way. I guess you are happy being in the lower third of the state! I say that with respect to the players just not to that specific "fan" you sirs are what is wrong with our youth...lets stay in a group where we know we can dominate instead of reaching up and out...It was a conversation starter you tards lol anyways I always like the banter back and forth but man oh man.
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Post by LHSTiger81 on Nov 28, 2016 7:52:20 GMT -6
OK, I'll elaborate. You think that because a team works their butt off, plays up most of the year and wins, they should then be moved even further out of the demographic that they are supposed to compete against, "To make things more fair." This is the same mindset that has teams who come from a city with a higher population and higher student attendance opt to schedule lower class teams so that they can win more games. How is this going to make you better? Your quote, "....I believe that they should automatically be put up a class for more of an even playing field." How exactly is that rewarding a team for being a class above the rest? Sounds like whining to me. Your mindset of eliminating the strong so the weak have a better chance is a stereotypical Liberal mindset, so that is where the participation trophy comment came from. Were you never exposed to the concept of practicing with people who are better than you in order to get better? Perhaps instead of trying to get rid of the teams that are beating you, maybe one should examine why it is happening, evaluate yourself and try to better yourself. THAT is a mindset that our youth could benefit from. And to your second lame brain comment, "...lets stay in a group where we know we can dominate instead of reaching up and out", do you not realize that schools don't have the "option" of moving a class size? Do we need to explain how a school and their classification is designated? Your "conversation starter" excuse is weak. It's an excuse to whine about competition. This "conversation" has been had countless times. I'm not the only person who feels this way about it.
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Post by mosooner on Nov 28, 2016 8:29:22 GMT -6
I think the argument to move up a class based on success would have more bite if this were not high school and the fact is many of those kids Graduate each year and there will be a different team take the field that next season. Lamar has defied the odds and been able to reload year after year. That is a tribute the the program as a whole. The next class has talent yes, but they work their butts off to make sure they are not the group that ends the run. Now the next couple of years might be a good example, Lamar looks to graduate a lot and will seemingly be ready to drop down a notch or two. (that is what I am hearing but as for me, until I see it happen I will continue to put my money on the Tigers)
Now private schools, that is a whole other animal.... and a subject for another day...
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