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Post by jordanearl on Feb 14, 2024 7:18:02 GMT -6
So the board last night let the petition be presented and a few speak, then went to closed session as expected. The board was in closed session along with the administration. That may be legal but the administration gets to present their case while everyone else goes home. I've been informed Coach Payne didn't get his job back and of course with that is many kids who are saying they won't come out next year. We shall see on that I guess. For those from Willow who read this and claim they don't know about this site or be a part of it - just know that yes I may still attend a few home games. But if we're down huge I won't stay through all 4 quarters. After 35 years being known as Mr dedicated Bear Fan, my days of that are over. I wish the kids the best of luck and hope/pray they find successes in the future. The wind is out of my sails folks. For those who are regularly on this forum. If (and I wouldn't be surprised if it does) this kills football at Willow I have already decided that I may tour the SCA a bit. I'll pick a game of the week, sit neutral as I have friends from just about all towns, and enjoy some close games. Whether or not that happens this message board will stay put and nothing will change. We'll keep going as normal as possible here. If you find yourself in Grove you know I got a seat for ya buddy
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Post by bmac on Feb 14, 2024 8:49:36 GMT -6
it's sad!!
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Post by dew on Feb 14, 2024 9:31:21 GMT -6
You could Join the Dark Side Dew!!!! But in all seriousness I get where you are coming from. It's hard enough to field a winning team even if everyone in the community is rowing the boat in the right direction. But it's near impossible to have a competitive squad when some of the Folks are sabotaging and drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. Do you think that players will actually not play next year? Normally I'd say that is a huge mistake and they should play for the new coach, but emotionally I get it. If you have bought into a coach and his program and suffered and fought threw a season like last year in preparations of better season's to come and then the Leader is taken out from within it's only normal to and human to go into self preservation mode and walk away from the Risk of starting over again at the bottom with nothing but the unknown ahead. Thanks for keeping the board open as well Dew.... To be honest I don't know that the answer is. The remaining coaches are working the kids over and trying to keep their heads up. I did see that last night after the basketball game as some got reminded the weight room is still open for use. I hate to see kids quit anything but it's also hard to have your emotions and mindsets played with. Willow is the SCA champs in the sport of yo-yoing (up, down, to the side, back n forth, toss around) I haven't told many but one thing that has caused me to feel this way is I got done (in my mind and that of others) in back in the fall. I have always ran the local athletics/extracurricular activities page on facebook. Yes it's just social media I get it. That page not only supports athletics but it supports any clubs especially FFA along with the youth sports. There is stuff on there from at least 10 years of pictures, scheduls, scores, awards, etc etc of anything kids do in Willow. 1500 plus people are on that page. The school hired a "communications director" with some kind of grant funds if I heard right, and they formed an "official athletics page". They got onto the original page and begged people to leave there and go to theirs. We have always done this for free. They're now paying an employee to play on social media. I didn't save the messages or comments about it but I felt stepped on. I didn't fight as hard as I should have because as you all know I was going through 2 family losses. Only the coaches and former coaches reached out to me when I lost my dad. No other persons from the school did. That may be petty on my part but I didn't take that very well, but I'm not an attention seeker either. So the wind came out of my sails much before this debacle did. I also know this isn't about me but the kids and coaches. The coaches I've talked to and myself definitely appreciate everyone's support of Coach Payne on this issue.
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Post by mosooner on Feb 14, 2024 10:16:59 GMT -6
Sorry, Dew. I know it must be rough. I really feel for the kids. Sounds like the board meeting, from what you describe, was handled correctly. I am sure Coach, is appreciative of all the support he has been shown. Things are really emotional, now. Lets see what happens in the coming weeks......
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Post by jordanearl on Feb 14, 2024 11:16:41 GMT -6
on the flip side, the kids have a chance to learn a real life lesson. you don't always get to pick your "bosses" sometimes they are good, sometimes they arent. and in some lines or work, its a new guy all the time. If I loved playing football I would play it regardless who the coach was. and unlike real life, you cant just quit playing for WS and start a new school(unless your moving) I know open enrollment is a touchy subject. but this is a great argument for why it could have a benefit
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Post by bonehead on Feb 14, 2024 17:25:44 GMT -6
If I understand correctly athletes using the open enrollment will need to sit out for a year before being eligible to play for that new school.
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Post by mghs on Feb 14, 2024 23:17:13 GMT -6
You could Join the Dark Side Dew!!!! But in all seriousness I get where you are coming from. It's hard enough to field a winning team even if everyone in the community is rowing the boat in the right direction. But it's near impossible to have a competitive squad when some of the Folks are sabotaging and drilling holes in the bottom of the boat. Do you think that players will actually not play next year? Normally I'd say that is a huge mistake and they should play for the new coach, but emotionally I get it. If you have bought into a coach and his program and suffered and fought threw a season like last year in preparations of better season's to come and then the Leader is taken out from within it's only normal to and human to go into self preservation mode and walk away from the Risk of starting over again at the bottom with nothing but the unknown ahead. Thanks for keeping the board open as well Dew.... To be honest I don't know that the answer is. The remaining coaches are working the kids over and trying to keep their heads up. I did see that last night after the basketball game as some got reminded the weight room is still open for use. I hate to see kids quit anything but it's also hard to have your emotions and mindsets played with. Willow is the SCA champs in the sport of yo-yoing (up, down, to the side, back n forth, toss around) I haven't told many but one thing that has caused me to feel this way is I got done (in my mind and that of others) in back in the fall. I have always ran the local athletics/extracurricular activities page on facebook. Yes it's just social media I get it. That page not only supports athletics but it supports any clubs especially FFA along with the youth sports. There is stuff on there from at least 10 years of pictures, scheduls, scores, awards, etc etc of anything kids do in Willow. 1500 plus people are on that page. The school hired a "communications director" with some kind of grant funds if I heard right, and they formed an "official athletics page". They got onto the original page and begged people to leave there and go to theirs. We have always done this for free. They're now paying an employee to play on social media. I didn't save the messages or comments about it but I felt stepped on. I didn't fight as hard as I should have because as you all know I was going through 2 family losses. Only the coaches and former coaches reached out to me when I lost my dad. No other persons from the school did. That may be petty on my part but I didn't take that very well, but I'm not an attention seeker either. So the wind came out of my sails much before this debacle did. I also know this isn't about me but the kids and coaches. The coaches I've talked to and myself definitely appreciate everyone's support of Coach Payne on this issue. If you look deeper into this a lot of business/corporations, govt agency's, etc. are spending precious funds on Social Media CONTROLLERS!!! Not to go full on Political but the idea is to control the Narrative and Information that the general public can get and receive. It's right out of the Leftist Playbook(Karl Marx/Fred Engles) if you have done any reading on the Subject. That is why Elon Musk is so hated rated now, he exposed how the Govt/FBI was controlling Twitter/X FaceBook etc. Don't get me wrong Elon isn't a Saint but he is a whole lot better than the previous Regime at Twitter. Of course Dew the School doesn't want your Page to be up and running because the School Board and Administration can't control the Freedom of Speech on the board and Cover up their biases and their Job performance. Hopefully the people in WS are bright enough to realize that is the reason why they tried to sabotage and hamstring your site. You made a huge mistake in not saving those comments and messages. You should of exposed them and countered them at every turn. Fighting for Liberty is a must if we don't want American culture to be slowly conformed into something none of us will like.
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Post by mghs on Feb 14, 2024 23:20:55 GMT -6
If I understand correctly athletes using the open enrollment will need to sit out for a year before being eligible to play for that new school. I thought you could do it once without sitting out but I might of heard that incorrectly? In truth if you are smart as a parent and you want out of a School you send you child to the school system of your choice when they are 6-7-8-9th grades and you don't have to worry about the sitting out a year BS. Kids can still play Junior high, Freshman and JV games.
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Post by bonehead on Feb 15, 2024 9:06:39 GMT -6
senate.mo.gov/23info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=44587TRANSFER POLICY AND PARTICIPATION (Section 167.1205) This act establishes the Public School Open Enrollment Act to enable K-12 students to attend school in a nonresident school district or charter school ("nonresident district"). On or before December 1st of each year, each school district and charter school shall indicate whether it will participate in the open enrollment program during the subsequent school year. Participating districts and schools may accept transferring nonresident students from any other school district. For the 2024-25 and 2025-26 school years, a district may restrict the number of students who may transfer away from the school district to a maximum of 5% of the district's enrollment for the prior year. The act shall not be construed to require any school to add teachers, staff, or classrooms. The Department of Elementary and Secondary Education shall develop a model policy for districts and charter schools to determine such standards and the number of transfers they may accept. The model policy shall be adopted by all districts and charter schools, whether or not they participate in the program, and may be modified to meet each district's and charter school's particular needs. The model policy shall require each district and charter school to define "insufficient classroom space" and may provide additional standards for evaluating transfer applications. Nonresident districts shall accept credits toward graduation from other districts and shall award a diploma to any transferring student who meets the nonresident district's graduation requirements. Superintendents shall cause information regarding the open enrollment program to be posted on the school district's or charter school's website and in the district's or charter school's student handbook. A student seeking to transfer to a magnet school, an academically selective school, or a school with a competitive entrance process shall submit proof that the student meets all admission requirements. A student may be denied transfer if, in the most recent school year, he or she has been suspended from school two or more times; has been suspended for an act of school violence; has been expelled for acts that school administrators are required to report to law enforcement under current law; or has been found guilty of an offense specified in the act, regardless of whether such offense was committed on school property. Such student may alternatively be permitted to transfer on a provisional, probationary basis subject to no further disruptive behavior based on standards that shall be developed by the nonresident district. Students denied transfer shall have the right to an in-person meeting with the nonresident district's superintendent. A 9th-12th grade transfer student shall be ineligible to participate in varsity sports during the first 365 days of such student's enrollment, unless the student meets certain conditions as provided in the act. A statewide activities association may provide additional penalties if the student was unduly influenced to transfer for reasons related to participation in sports.
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Post by mosooner on Feb 15, 2024 9:13:40 GMT -6
If I understand correctly athletes using the open enrollment will need to sit out for a year before being eligible to play for that new school. Yes, that has been in every open enrollment bill for the last few years... They did add the line about associations being able to add additional penalties for schools that entice students to move for athletic reasons.
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Post by mghs on Feb 15, 2024 19:26:41 GMT -6
So do the transfer early and all is well
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Post by bmac on Apr 30, 2024 19:10:23 GMT -6
added Brookshire to the coaching staff.
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