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Post by dew on Nov 20, 2023 9:14:28 GMT -6
9-2, and a BIG chance to land a New Year's 6 Bowl game! They were picked to finish 5th in the SEC East. It sure has been a hot minute since we could brag on them. Hopefully I'm not jinxing that for the Arkansas game, lol.
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Post by bonehead on Nov 20, 2023 13:22:03 GMT -6
Been a fun year. But they are clearly playing over their head. They are not a top 10 team in the country.
Drink has been a good coach and has done well recruiting. Hopefully the future is bright.
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Post by mghs on Nov 20, 2023 16:22:34 GMT -6
They gave LSU and UGA a slug in the mouth. So I’d say they are a top 10 team at least top 12.Because the SEC is the toughest league by far. 5 teams in top 14.If we played Louisville or OLE Miss Mizzou would have a good chance to win those games. The Big 12 is trash league. And I’m real skeptical of the Pac12 as well. Now is Mizzou a top 5 team? Nope but a drop off between top 6 teams and the rest.
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Post by slomo on Nov 21, 2023 19:33:50 GMT -6
Been a fun year. But they are clearly playing over their head. They are not a top 10 team in the country. Drink has been a good coach and has done well recruiting. Hopefully the future is bright. "They're a good team but all the evidence of them being good that they've put on film week in and week out clearly proves they aren't actually that good." That's what you just said. They are what the tape and their record says they are, which is good.
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Post by bonehead on Nov 21, 2023 22:19:01 GMT -6
I am sorry my opinion bothered you. But I stand by it. They are having a good year, but they are not a top 10 team in the country.
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Post by slomo on Nov 22, 2023 10:30:37 GMT -6
Your opinion didn't bother me, just thought it was a silly one.
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Post by bonehead on Nov 22, 2023 15:33:54 GMT -6
Not sure how it is "silly". I think it is pretty reasonable. They have had some pretty good luck this year in some games. They barely beat a Middle Tenn team that is 4-7 on the season. They barely beat a memphis team that is at best average. They have played really well at times and played so/so at times. Again, it has been a good season and I have really enjoyed it. Just don't think they are a top 10 team. But still a great story.
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Post by slomo on Nov 22, 2023 16:03:39 GMT -6
Mizzou has earned the negative perception many have of them. Yes they played Memphis and MTSU closer than they should have. But they also beat the brakes off of Tennessee and Kentucky. They played UGA really close, scored more points on them than any other team this year. You don't win 9-10 games in the SEC based on luck.
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Post by mosooner on Nov 22, 2023 16:17:45 GMT -6
Not sure the SEC is nearly as dominate this year... Though there is normally no doubt and its about to become even tougher. Out of Conference play seems to be evidence of that. I actually think bonehead has a pretty good take on it. But its sure been a year to enjoy for the Tigers
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Post by bonehead on Nov 22, 2023 18:04:06 GMT -6
Mizzou has earned the negative perception many have of them. Yes they played Memphis and MTSU closer than they should have. But they also beat the brakes off of Tennessee and Kentucky. They played UGA really close, scored more points on them than any other team this year. You don't win 9-10 games in the SEC based on luck. I do not have a negative perception. I am actually very excited about the future. The Tenn game was great and if they can play like that consistently then they are a top 10 team. But then they turned around and played so/so to squeak out a win against a not very good Florida team while at home. A top team puts the hammer down on Florida and does not have to depend on some breaks to fall their way and get a FG at the last min to win. And frankly, Friday worries me. Arkansas is better than their record and rivalry games always can be strange.
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Post by mghs on Nov 23, 2023 0:15:49 GMT -6
UF is better than their record as well and is really the team in the SEC who has underperformed. LSU or Tenn didn't put the hammer down on UF either. The SEC has more parity this year than most seasons that is true. But still is the top league no doubt. If you watch the B10 I do cause my Brother has Split allegiances between MU/NU the b10 got two good teams Mich./Ohio st. and after that they are not even close to the SEC if you drop Penn st. in the SEC they are Mizzou and I'd take Mizzou to beat them at Faurot field and lose at Beaver Stadium.
And the B12 I've watched several Sooner games as well cause my Buddy is a huge fan so watched them and all they got in the B12 is Texas and that's it. Pac12 Not sold on Oregon or Wash.as elite but they are probably better than Mizzou and the ACC now that FSU has lost their QB that league is weak sauce. Your telling me that the Louisville Cards are that much better than Mizzou..... they squeaked by Indian, G-tech, lost to Pitt!! Mizzou and Penn st. are a push and the SEC schedule and close games vs LSU and UGA gives them the nod I'm sure in the Committees eye's? I give you Bama and Texas are much better because they have acquired all that 4/5** talent and they ranked ahead of Mizzou but Mizzou ranked number 10 looks about right. I'd feel confident that against Ole Miss they didn't even give UGA a game or the Sooners even though it would be tough contest we would prevail, they just slipped by UCF, Lost to freaking KU and down trodden Okie st. team what have they done to be ranked ahead of Mizzou...Mizzou could win those games.
When I look at the top 25 who deserves to be ahead of Mizzou at this point? All those teams have had hiccups and Slip up's. You have a log Jam From 9 to 14 all those teams that are Close. Mizzou has found away to win and earned the number 10 spot. They have been gifted nothing. Their two losses look pretty good. Penn st. is the only team that has a legit argument to be ranked ahead of Mizzou with losses to Mich/Ohio st. but they also have a weak B10 schedule to boot outside of those two teams. I will say again I think the committee has it right if you look at the body of work Mizzou get's the Nod. If we lose to Ark. then we slip down to the to around 20.
I do agree Friday worries me. Ark. has talent and Mizzou is banged up at the ILB spot with Hopper and Hicks gimpy. That could be huge also inside Realus George is not 100% and he is one of our top DL for run stopping. And clearly Burden has been playing at about 75% since he hurt his ankle at Tenn. Going on the road to Ark. will not be easy. I do think this is the year that Ark. actually stops looking down at Mizzou and decides to play up as opposed to expecting a easy win.
Slomo has a good point in that Mizzou has been so Average for a decade and has under preformed in bowl games that they idea that Mizzou has finally gotten enough talent from recruiting and the transfer portal to be this good is alien to many and they chalk up their success to luck.
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Post by oldhead on Nov 23, 2023 11:52:50 GMT -6
Arkansas will be without Dubinion and Rocket Sanders tomorrow. Should see a heavy dose of the freshman RB Augustave. Mizzou is the better team but the best team hasn’t always won this game in the past.
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Post by bonehead on Nov 23, 2023 15:41:46 GMT -6
UF is better than their record as well and is really the team in the SEC who has underperformed. LSU or Tenn didn't put the hammer down on UF either. The SEC has more parity this year than most seasons that is true. But still is the top league no doubt. If you watch the B10 I do cause my Brother has Split allegiances between MU/NU the b10 got two good teams Mich./Ohio st. and after that they are not even close to the SEC if you drop Penn st. in the SEC they are Mizzou and I'd take Mizzou to beat them at Faurot field and lose at Beaver Stadium. And the B12 I've watched several Sooner games as well cause my Buddy is a huge fan so watched them and all they got in the B12 is Texas and that's it. Pac12 Not sold on Oregon or Wash.as elite but they are probably better than Mizzou and the ACC now that FSU has lost their QB that league is weak sauce. Your telling me that the Louisville Cards are that much better than Mizzou..... they squeaked by Indian, G-tech, lost to Pitt!! Mizzou and Penn st. are a push and the SEC schedule and close games vs LSU and UGA gives them the nod I'm sure in the Committees eye's? I give you Bama and Texas are much better because they have acquired all that 4/5** talent and they ranked ahead of Mizzou but Mizzou ranked number 10 looks about right. I'd feel confident that against Ole Miss they didn't even give UGA a game or the Sooners even though it would be tough contest we would prevail, they just slipped by UCF, Lost to freaking KU and down trodden Okie st. team what have they done to be ranked ahead of Mizzou...Mizzou could win those games. When I look at the top 25 who deserves to be ahead of Mizzou at this point? All those teams have had hiccups and Slip up's. You have a log Jam From 9 to 14 all those teams that are Close. Mizzou has found away to win and earned the number 10 spot. They have been gifted nothing. Their two losses look pretty good. Penn st. is the only team that has a legit argument to be ranked ahead of Mizzou with losses to Mich/Ohio st. but they also have a weak B10 schedule to boot outside of those two teams. I will say again I think the committee has it right if you look at the body of work Mizzou get's the Nod. If we lose to Ark. then we slip down to the to around 20. I do agree Friday worries me. Ark. has talent and Mizzou is banged up at the ILB spot with Hopper and Hicks gimpy. That could be huge also inside Realus George is not 100% and he is one of our top DL for run stopping. And clearly Burden has been playing at about 75% since he hurt his ankle at Tenn. Going on the road to Ark. will not be easy. I do think this is the year that Ark. actually stops looking down at Mizzou and decides to play up as opposed to expecting a easy win. Slomo has a good point in that Mizzou has been so Average for a decade and has under preformed in bowl games that they idea that Mizzou has finally gotten enough talent from recruiting and the transfer portal to be this good is alien to many and they chalk up their success to luck. That is a lot of words
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Post by mghs on Nov 23, 2023 23:21:51 GMT -6
Arkansas will be without Dubinion and Rocket Sanders tomorrow. Should see a heavy dose of the freshman RB Augustave. Mizzou is the better team but the best team hasn’t always won this game in the past. Rocket has been out since early in the Season and it derailed them to a degree. Yep Ark. has beat Mizzou a couple of times and they've never been the better team
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Post by mghs on Nov 23, 2023 23:44:03 GMT -6
Arkansas will be without Dubinion and Rocket Sanders tomorrow. Should see a heavy dose of the freshman RB Augustave. Mizzou is the better team but the best team hasn’t always won this game in the past. Rocket has been out since early in the Season and it derailed them to a degree. Yep Ark. has beat Mizzou a couple of times and they've never been the better team Big Mizzou Fan and have put a lot of thought into this season, because it's been a long while since 2013 and 2014 when we had a competitive squad. Odom was a huge let down, after mentoring under GP, Larry Smith, Fuente, and holding almost every spot on a College Staff.. recruiting cord., LB coach, Safety coach, DC etc. I thought he would be a perfect fit for his alma mater. But he failed in recruiting, Failed in game management, and failed in fitting his scheme to his talent. Why the heck did he change his Defensive scheme the first season as a HC with 9 returning starters from the top Defensive Squad in the SEC the year before, that he was the DC of? Oh probably Hubris or pure stupidity. Of course Mid-season he had to change back to salvage something of a season. Drink has been much better in Recruiting and now finally has found a competent DC, OC and OL coach to round out his staff so I look for good things moving forward. Don't get me wrong next year 7-8 wins is probably the Ceiling for the program. Unlike Ark. fans I realize Mizzou isn't Texas or Bama. Jeez troll Hogville and 90% of them believe Mizzou should be a automatic WIN. Mizzou is going to cycle up and down because we Can't Select talent from a Pool of 4/5 stars begging to be on the Roster. I will say this if people from Mizzou land want to compete with the Blue Bloods we need to stop being tight and cheap. The game has always been about $$$$$$$$$ and before it was under the table and the NCAA only policed the Programs like Mizzou, Arizona St, Ole Miss, Oregon st. etc. as the ND,Bama, OU, Texas, Tenn, UGA, UF, FSU,USC,UCLA, Miami etc. ran amok. Now with the NIL every team is free to pay players. On principle I dislike it as it's turned the Student Athlete into a Pro athlete. But the one benefit is that now the corruption is legal and out in the open. So teams like Mizzou can pony up $$$$ and try to compete without fear of a NCAA AX chopping the program up. everytruetiger.org/If your a Tiger fan you can Donate a lump sum to the NIL collective above or pay monthly. You can specify the sport(FOOTBALL should be the focus IMO) or into the general fund. I mean 5$/20$ a month from thousand of Mizzou fans can add up to a lot!! I really hope that Missouri as a whole finally wakes up to the SEC culture and Football becomes a way of life. It's gonna be a process that is for sure as lame Basketball is so huge. Why rural Caucasian kids are so smitten by a Sport they look laughable playing is beyond me!! But it's a free country so if that is what turns their crank go for it.
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