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Post by mosooner on Nov 29, 2023 9:32:09 GMT -6
We have to consider that the Oklahoma win over Texas is a better win than any win Mizzou has. I mean isnt that the measuring stick that Alabama wants to use (if they can upset Georgia) to jump past Texas even though they lost to the Shorthorns at home?
No matter how you look at it, no discounting what the Tigers and Drink have done this year. More excitement than we have seen in some time.
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Post by jordanearl on Nov 29, 2023 12:58:27 GMT -6
My opinion comes from Urban Meyer and Barry Alvarez they wanted rural players to come camp with them. They were not interested in film against lesser competition. Come to camp compete against top talent and then we will see about a preferred walk on first and if you happen to get other offers then a scholarship might be forth coming. They are in record talking about this approach. Of course if you are a DGB then of course people notice, I’m not talking about top rated 4* or 5* guys. I’m talking about the Mid- range 3* or low end 4*. Those guys get overlooked in rural area. And a lot of coaches fear wasting a schollie on them. The Neveda kid is a prime example…if he played in StL or KC or Dallas he would have had a Mizzou offer faster! He did play in Kansas City and was already All-State before transferring to Nevada. They knew about him or the nevada kid was plan c. and they struck out on the a and b.
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Post by jordanearl on Nov 29, 2023 13:34:09 GMT -6
I do wonder if MIZZOU really deserves to be #8 though. I have thought the Sooners should be rated ahead of them, but have thought that was just a homer bias until I saw an article tonight on ESPN,, it shows that most every metric that OU is better. Would love to see that game in a Bowl, but it wont happen. That being said, happy for MIZZOU and their fans, its been a great year and a huge improvement. OU lost to 8-4 Kansas and 9-3 OK state MU lost to 9-3 LSU and 12-0 GA kansas?
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Post by mosooner on Nov 29, 2023 15:33:52 GMT -6
The OK State loss was a major screw job, but it is a loss none the less....
Sooners also beat Texas and is a better win than any Mizzou has. Metrics are actually really close, with a slight edge to the Sooners. Would love to see that game.
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Post by mghs on Nov 29, 2023 23:18:16 GMT -6
Lets not forget that Mizzou barely got by a bad Middle Tenn team and an average Memphis team. I think OU and Mizzou would be a great game, too bad it wont happen Yes that is true as well.... and you see that in a lot of conferences against pay for play teams early when DC and OC are vanilla and expect their talent to eventually win out.. in conference play you don't see that happen to often. I do think it would be a great game as well and as I said I wouldn't predict Mizzou to beat OU by more than 3pts. It would be a close one no doubt. My point is that Mizzou has earned their ranking and by no means has OU looked more dominating or loaded with more overt talent than Mizzou. Mizzou has semi-finalist for Awards in Davey O'Brien, Doak Walker, Biletnikoff, Thorpe, Butkus, and Bednarik. So this team is about as talented as any Mizzou team we've ever had. And it's showed with a 10-2 record. I understand it's hard to fathom that Mizzou is a top 10 team because it's been near a decade 2014 since we fielded a credible squad and Programs like OU are in the top 10 realm yearly. So on those odd occasions when programs Like Mizzou acquire the talent and put together a run psychologically it's hard to acknowledge they are better than the Blue Bloods.
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Post by mghs on Nov 29, 2023 23:21:47 GMT -6
And at least the Tigers, Sooners, whoever else you all root for haven't let a fox back into the henhouse like Arkansas cough cough.... Guard your daughters especially if they have any interest in motorcycles folks DUDE can coach!!! It's big time athletics winning is what matters. And as Far as I know he owned the motorcycle and his Rider was a Grown as HO HO free to dilly dally with what ever married man she pleased. So underage daughters should be save. OF course Ark. was also free to fire him for the bad optics of having a young attractive side piece who might of earned her job with certain skills she was born with. LOL
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Post by mghs on Nov 29, 2023 23:24:45 GMT -6
He did play in Kansas City and was already All-State before transferring to Nevada. They knew about him or the nevada kid was plan c. and they struck out on the a and b. Yes I'm sure that clearly was a factor and also plays into my narrative. Rural kids who play against weaker competition and are unknown entities have to work harder and go to college camps and basically exploit themselves harder than Urban Kids from Big Metro area's.
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Post by mghs on Nov 29, 2023 23:42:11 GMT -6
The OK State loss was a major screw job, but it is a loss none the less.... Sooners also beat Texas and is a better win than any Mizzou has. Metrics are actually really close, with a slight edge to the Sooners. Would love to see that game. You keep saying the Metrics favor OU... but he Most accurate one yearly the SP+ favors Mizzou. The lesser Metrics FPI/FEI favor OU. So in reality that is a push. No doubt the Committee takes into account a lot of analytics as well that we are not privy to. And come on I could say the officiating vs the two teams we lost to was less than favorable for Mizzou. My number one analytic though for OU though comes from my Best Friend a Life long Sooner fan.. Played at Grove, Coached at Grove, Played College ball. And we watch a lot of the Games together Sooner and Mizzou smoke some nice cigars and imbibe on some adult refreshing beverages. . He thinks Mizzou is 2 TD's better than OU. I argue it's a Push that OU is dang good and it would be close between Mizzou/OU. I do respect his opinion though so he has convinced me we are 3pts better. But back to the OP.... some feel Mizzou is over ranked and isn't top 10 worthy that is not the case at all. Clearly that narrative is to some degree being driven by the OU media hounds because the Sooners are a bigger name and better Eye Catcher than the Tigers. No doubt the Sooner Fandom will draw more interest nation wide than Mizzou, so it's not a surprise at all that the CFB overlords are angling for the Sooners to be higher placed.
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Post by jordanearl on Nov 30, 2023 7:31:18 GMT -6
The OK State loss was a major screw job, but it is a loss none the less.... Sooners also beat Texas and is a better win than any Mizzou has. Metrics are actually really close, with a slight edge to the Sooners. Would love to see that game. stop getting your metrics from CNN, yahoo and AOL CFP Rankings have us 3 spots higher. the top ranked 2 loss team in the country. and we will see MU-OU next year. in COMO no need to waste a bowl game on it.
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Post by dew on Nov 30, 2023 7:38:27 GMT -6
We won't know Mizzou's opponent for a bowl game until Saturday's games are over. Who would we want them to play and what New Year's 6 bowl game? Not who SHOULD they play but who would you all like to see them play?
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Post by jordanearl on Nov 30, 2023 8:16:12 GMT -6
im hoping for a game against penn state. prefer it be Peach in Atlanta or Cotton Bowl In TX. if its either of those im going lol.
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Post by bmac on Nov 30, 2023 8:48:20 GMT -6
Notre Dame!
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Post by mosooner on Nov 30, 2023 8:54:26 GMT -6
The OK State loss was a major screw job, but it is a loss none the less.... Sooners also beat Texas and is a better win than any Mizzou has. Metrics are actually really close, with a slight edge to the Sooners. Would love to see that game. You keep saying the Metrics favor OU... but he Most accurate one yearly the SP+ favors Mizzou. The lesser Metrics FPI/FEI favor OU. So in reality that is a push. No doubt the Committee takes into account a lot of analytics as well that we are not privy to. And come on I could say the officiating vs the two teams we lost to was less than favorable for Mizzou. My number one analytic though for OU though comes from my Best Friend a Life long Sooner fan.. Played at Grove, Coached at Grove, Played College ball. And we watch a lot of the Games together Sooner and Mizzou smoke some nice cigars and imbibe on some adult refreshing beverages. . He thinks Mizzou is 2 TD's better than OU. I argue it's a Push that OU is dang good and it would be close between Mizzou/OU. I do respect his opinion though so he has convinced me we are 3pts better. But back to the OP.... some feel Mizzou is over ranked and isn't top 10 worthy that is not the case at all. Clearly that narrative is to some degree being driven by the OU media hounds because the Sooners are a bigger name and better Eye Catcher than the Tigers. No doubt the Sooner Fandom will draw more interest nation wide than Mizzou, so it's not a surprise at all that the CFB overlords are angling for the Sooners to be higher placed. Thinking the group right after Bama in the rankings are extremely close... Because of where we live and being a Sooner fan, its natural for me to compare those two teams. I am not saying OU is better or worse.... There is no doubt that OU has the better wins, but there is also no doubt that the Sooners have the worse loses as well. It would be a good game without a doubt.. Yes, they do play next year in COMO, but both teams will be different. Would love to see the Penn St matchup. Thinking the Tigers would get that one. That one would likely be the Peach Bowl... What about the Cotton Bowl vs Texas?
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Post by jordanearl on Nov 30, 2023 10:05:53 GMT -6
You keep saying the Metrics favor OU... but he Most accurate one yearly the SP+ favors Mizzou. The lesser Metrics FPI/FEI favor OU. So in reality that is a push. No doubt the Committee takes into account a lot of analytics as well that we are not privy to. And come on I could say the officiating vs the two teams we lost to was less than favorable for Mizzou. My number one analytic though for OU though comes from my Best Friend a Life long Sooner fan.. Played at Grove, Coached at Grove, Played College ball. And we watch a lot of the Games together Sooner and Mizzou smoke some nice cigars and imbibe on some adult refreshing beverages. . He thinks Mizzou is 2 TD's better than OU. I argue it's a Push that OU is dang good and it would be close between Mizzou/OU. I do respect his opinion though so he has convinced me we are 3pts better. But back to the OP.... some feel Mizzou is over ranked and isn't top 10 worthy that is not the case at all. Clearly that narrative is to some degree being driven by the OU media hounds because the Sooners are a bigger name and better Eye Catcher than the Tigers. No doubt the Sooner Fandom will draw more interest nation wide than Mizzou, so it's not a surprise at all that the CFB overlords are angling for the Sooners to be higher placed. Thinking the group right after Bama in the rankings are extremely close... Because of where we live and being a Sooner fan, its natural for me to compare those two teams. I am not saying OU is better or worse.... There is no doubt that OU has the better wins, but there is also no doubt that the Sooners have the worse loses as well. It would be a good game without a doubt.. Yes, they do play next year in COMO, but both teams will be different. Would love to see the Penn St matchup. Thinking the Tigers would get that one. That one would likely be the Peach Bowl... What about the Cotton Bowl vs Texas? i see no reason to get paired with Texas or OU. and word is Texas is telling cotton bowl they want to get out of state for bowl
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Post by mosooner on Nov 30, 2023 10:20:26 GMT -6
Penn State would be the easier matchup, I think. No history there though, bowls like those spicy matchups, sometimes. Tigers and Horns dont play next year, and no one knows how the SEC is going to end up scheduling. Other than travel, the Peach Bowl would be good. I did see one other prediction (other than Penn St).. Might have been Tulane...
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