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Post by dew on Nov 30, 2023 11:03:19 GMT -6
I said an opponent!!!
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Post by mghs on Nov 30, 2023 23:11:51 GMT -6
im hoping for a game against penn state. prefer it be Peach in Atlanta or Cotton Bowl In TX. if its either of those im going lol. We will get a G5 Tulane or Texas if they don't sneak into the 4 team playoff. It's the Mizzou thing to happen. I'd Like to Play Penn st. or Wash. if they don't get into the Playoff if they lose to Oregon.
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Post by bonehead on Dec 3, 2023 16:06:21 GMT -6
Mizzou vs Ohio State in the cotton bowl.
Should be fun.
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Post by panther1969 on Dec 5, 2023 11:36:41 GMT -6
MU v OSU..that's a great matchup..and should bring in lots of revenue, which is what it's really about.
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Post by mosooner on Dec 5, 2023 11:54:20 GMT -6
Ohio St QB says good bye!!!! What are the chances of Marvin Harrison Jr playing?
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Post by jordanearl on Dec 5, 2023 13:05:51 GMT -6
Ohio St QB says good bye!!!! What are the chances of Marvin Harrison Jr playing? OSU backuops are still 4 and 5 stars. but ill take it lol
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Post by mghs on Dec 6, 2023 0:18:25 GMT -6
MH JR not playing would be huge issue for Ohio St.
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Post by panther1969 on Dec 6, 2023 8:16:50 GMT -6
The Portal should not be allowed to be open until AFTER the last college game is played for the season. I understand players not wanting to play to not get injured because of draft status. But on flipside college athletes are "employees" of the university and as such should be "earning" their pay..tuition, room/board, swag..etc
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Post by mghs on Dec 6, 2023 18:56:41 GMT -6
They are not employees …none of those benefits are taxable. Players can announce at anytime they are Transferring and stop playing.
The portal opens on Dec. 4th because the season has ended. The last games of the seasons have been played. Bowl games are nothing but exhibitions, and not all teams play in bowls. And teams have refused Bowl Bids …Coaches want the transfer date to start at the end of the regular season so they can begin to build their roster for the next season and begin recruiting in the month of December Highschool player and TP players. Dec. 4th was a chosen for that very reason. Coaches are now working hard to acquiring TP commits to plug their highschool short comings on the recruiting trail.
Make no mistake most players who hit the TP are ushered out the door by the program they are at. Mizzou is a prime example you can look at how 90% of the players move down or make a lateral move at best.
Players opting out of bowl games, while frustrating to fans, is a wise business decisions for players who get high NFL draft grades. That I agree with.
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Post by dew on Dec 7, 2023 8:07:43 GMT -6
I don't agree. While there's not a stat on it I already see many players not staying loyal to contracts or teams in the NFL because they know they can just quit anytime. Playoff teams have players that finish their jobs and seasons, don't take plays off (Chris Jones), and not just look for contracts. Now grant it the NFL has teams who throw their players around like rag dolls but I'm referring to those who come in on a rookie contract (4 years mandatory if I remember right, but will take correction) and already holding out at year 2 whether they're that good or not. The more these college kids are coddled the more they're going to be a problem at the next level. And I don't mean just the NFL either. Employers of all kinds will get to deal with the entitled once they leave college. And those employers won't be able to give them the million or so the NIL is getting them, so they won't stay loyal to the employers either. Nothing aggravates me more than a 5th year senior deciding his coach/team ain't good enough anymore so he opts out of a bowl game. The NFL combines and draft aint till April, do they need that much rest?? During those 5 years that player gets room, board, degree (supposedly), NIL and no telling what else. Colleges get invited to bowl games based on those players as well as the wins. If they don't show then that bowl game goes broke and some don't get played. KJ Jefferson played 5 years at Arkansas and thanks to the Covid rule gets a 6th year and is talking about or has hit the transfer portal. What NFL team is going to pick him up after shopping around like that?? 5 years guys. Why not finish there? But then again if he's actually that good why not say thank you Arkansas and enter the draft??
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Post by oldhead on Dec 7, 2023 10:40:23 GMT -6
KJ is not very good without Kendall Briles simplifying the offense for him. He will not be an NFL QB. He can’t read a defense. As an Arkansas fan, it’s time for him to move on.
A crazy rumor floating around now is that the SEC and B10 are in discussions with NFL teams about NIL. NFL teams are wanting to pay for the players but are going to treat it like a farm league. Like I said, just a rumor I’ve seen floating around, probably nothing to it.
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Post by mghs on Dec 7, 2023 19:11:42 GMT -6
I don't agree. While there's not a stat on it I already see many players not staying loyal to contracts or teams in the NFL because they know they can just quit anytime. Playoff teams have players that finish their jobs and seasons, don't take plays off (Chris Jones), and not just look for contracts. Now grant it the NFL has teams who throw their players around like rag dolls but I'm referring to those who come in on a rookie contract (4 years mandatory if I remember right, but will take correction) and already holding out at year 2 whether they're that good or not. The more these college kids are coddled the more they're going to be a problem at the next level. And I don't mean just the NFL either. Employers of all kinds will get to deal with the entitled once they leave college. And those employers won't be able to give them the million or so the NIL is getting them, so they won't stay loyal to the employers either. Nothing aggravates me more than a 5th year senior deciding his coach/team ain't good enough anymore so he opts out of a bowl game. The NFL combines and draft aint till April, do they need that much rest?? During those 5 years that player gets room, board, degree (supposedly), NIL and no telling what else. Colleges get invited to bowl games based on those players as well as the wins. If they don't show then that bowl game goes broke and some don't get played. KJ Jefferson played 5 years at Arkansas and thanks to the Covid rule gets a 6th year and is talking about or has hit the transfer portal. What NFL team is going to pick him up after shopping around like that?? 5 years guys. Why not finish there? But then again if he's actually that good why not say thank you Arkansas and enter the draft?? You can’t force loyalty. The players that opt out are using CFB as a stepping stone to the NFL. Playing sports is voluntary and if millions are on the line not playing in a meaningless bowl game is smart, playing isn’t worth the risk. And you don’t follow this much it appears most College coaches are all in on those NFL draft worthy players not playing in the meaningless bowl games. First it’s optics for future recruits and shows the coach cares. And has the players best interest at heart. If it’s the CFB playoffs and the game has meaning they play. But the average bowl game is not going to increase a players draft stock and if a player is entering the draft and leaving the roster Coaches like to get reps and experience for the next up. I understand Dew you live in the past and long for the days of playing for the love of the game and your ole Alma mater. But the elite college athletes tend to got to either Private schools, public football factories or Football Academies like IMG or Peak. I’m not saying all College players adhere to this model some understand they are not NFL bound. Walk-Ons like Cody Schrader are team first guys. But the Elite guys are more professionals than love the Name on the front players. As a Bama fan your squad is full of future me first professionals who are treated harshly and like a employee by Saban and His staff and by Doing so he gets supreme results and elites high school players foam at the mouth to play there and audition to the NFL. Because they know Saban way produces tons of NFL draftees …If you buy the BS propaganda that Bama isn’t operated this way do a quick search on what Saban former assistants detail.
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Post by dew on Dec 8, 2023 8:26:08 GMT -6
Saban is a hard charger and demands a lot. And yes, while there will be a few me first pros coming out of there or anywhere else. You will see a lot less premadonnas from there or most of the SEC because the old school disciplines, believe in God, team first, go the extra mile still exist. Saban has actually softened up some in his old age. As a matter of fact I can think of only one Bama player (Jerry Jeudy) who is in trouble for anything right now. While there may be others the biggest majority keep their noses clean. Jalen Hurts has yet to give any credit to himself or get conceited about being a big time winning QB. We need more like him
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Post by mghs on Dec 8, 2023 9:15:28 GMT -6
Dew you don’t see the reality clearly Saban runs Bama like a pro squad and if you don’t conform he sent them packing and replaced them with another 4-5 star and kept winning. When a team is loaded with that much talent you can Coach harder because the players are easily expendable. Mid tier squads can ill afford to do that because if they lose their precious 4-5 stars the replacement 2/3 stars add up to loses.
Why has Saban softens this Year!!! It’s because of the NIL, players now can just walk away if they choose and make bank at some other school.
And Bama has control of the press and the local authorities are very soft on the program. Good gosh look at the basketball debacle last year!!
Pull your head out of Sand Bama has been dirty as any program in the land since Bear Bryant was paying players not to go to other schools to compete against them.
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Post by jordanearl on Dec 8, 2023 9:55:51 GMT -6
Saban is a hard charger and demands a lot. And yes, while there will be a few me first pros coming out of there or anywhere else. You will see a lot less premadonnas from there or most of the SEC because the old school disciplines, believe in God, team first, go the extra mile still exist. Saban has actually softened up some in his old age. As a matter of fact I can think of only one Bama player (Jerry Jeudy) who is in trouble for anything right now. While there may be others the biggest majority keep their noses clean. Jalen Hurts has yet to give any credit to himself or get conceited about being a big time winning QB. We need more like him and bama booted him to the curb in championship game. and he finished at OU
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